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Sunday Nov 10, 2024
Sunday Nov 10, 2024
Once again Daredevil continues to be absolutely fantastic - all of our characters try their best last swings, and it all falls apart. Pat loves Fisk's particular brand of evil, and David is compelled to dote on Matt's decision making.
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(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
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Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
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I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
4:20 - Episode 11 "Reunion" Discussion25:51 - The Importance of Location37:20 - Rabbit In A Snowstorm Meaning48:30 - What's Going On At Castle Fisk1:00:03 - Ray Nadeem's Wolves1:07:46 - Episode 11 "One Last Shot" Discussion1:17:51 - Pat's Cosmic Karma Scale1:23:00 - The Fraught Vanessa Question1:31:40 - Matt's Emotional Catharsis: Saving Sammi1:41:34 - Downsizing Your Ninja Employees1:45:50 - Courthouse Journey Fight1:54:00 - Vanessa and Fisk Give Us The Ick2:59:33 - Matt's Final Turn2:02:59 - Production Discussion2:08:36 - Outro
Sunday Nov 24, 2024
Sunday Nov 24, 2024
It's finally here. Daredevil and crew close in on Fisk and everything comes to a head. Pat is invested in the religious symbolism, and David brings Rabbit In A Snowstorm back into frame.
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The Show
(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
Disclaimer
I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
2:50 - Episode 13 "A New Napkin" Discussion15:21 - Once You Start, Bad Things Beget Bad Things23:38 - David's Dramatic Flaw28:55 - How To Stop Matt Murdock35:36 - The Flaw In Fisk's Plan40:38 - Using Your Powers For Good?44:45 - Ray's Death Testimonial50:38 - Fisk's Happily Ever After56:35 - Evil Defeats Itself1:05:20 - Fisk Is Finally Done1:10:41 - The Ballroom Fight1:14:00 - The Final Fight Scene: Daredevil vs. Fisk1:20:17 - Rabbit In A Snowstorm: The Defiled Truths1:35:03 - The Quick Religious Chat1:40:24 - The Matt & Maggie Epilogue1:55:11 - The New Napkin Conversation2:02:19 - Well, That Appears To Be It2:10:11 - Daredevil Is Still Genius2:16:20 - Outro
Sunday Dec 08, 2024
Sunday Dec 08, 2024
The boys check in with Matt Murdock the root rat and his appearance in She-Hulk to answer one simple question: is the show anything? What's the deal She-Hulk?
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The Show
(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
Disclaimer
I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
4:30 - She-Hulk Summary9:05 - The Daredevil of it all21:33 - What's Going On With Jen30:15 - Why Is Matt Murdock In She-Hulk40:19 - Maybe the MCU Hurts She-Hulk?52:40 - I Dunno Man Apple TV Make Good Stuff58:20 - Our Concerns and Hopes for Daredevil Born Again1:06:11 - Outro
Sunday Dec 22, 2024
Sunday Dec 22, 2024
It's that special time of year: time to dive into the salvetic world of Elf and explore all of the strange quirks of being a film made in 2003 pretending that 2001 didn't happen.
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The Show
(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
Disclaimer
I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps
00:00 - It begins!03:26 - The history of Elf (2003)13:57 - Summary16:59 - World building and set up24:29 - That shower scene sure is... huh?33:00 - Buddy leaves the North Pole41:42 - Buddy's father issues and capitalism49:23 - The calculus of Buddy's "Niceness"59:59 - The world's worst house guest continues1:13:52 - So let's talk about 20011:25:26 - The date of a lifetime1:39:00 - Content warning: discussions of self-harm and suicide1:46:00 - Elf's many references1:52:00 - The ending and final assessment2:09:15 - Heart warming final moments and resonance2:29:10 - Support indie media crit at patreon.com/zeroindent
Sunday Jan 12, 2025
Sunday Jan 12, 2025
After a great calamity you stumble out of an empty apartment building, shield your eyes against the bright sun...
Welcome to our season finale! Step into our writer's room as Pat steps us through his pitch for a prospective season 4 of Netflix's Daredevil, contending with the events of the snap, The Defenders and what it means to have power.
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The Show
(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
Disclaimer
I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps
00:00 - It begins!
03:33 - The boys are nervous07:11 - Table Stakes15:18 - The Tone and Style Pitch23:33 - The Themes of Season 4: Religious Faith32:59 - Character Arcs and Set Ups49:11 - Matt's Story1:06:31 - Karen's Story1:20:40 - Jessica's Story1:32:40 - Luke's Story2:10:52 - Fisk's Story2:48:20 - Trish's Story3:11:14 - Hardy's Story3:34:15 - The Final Conflict of The Story3:51:30 - The experience of doing the work4:05:11 - We're so grateful for the show4:10:00 - Support us at Patreon.com/zeroindent
Thursday Jan 16, 2025
Thursday Jan 16, 2025
You wake, groggy, and roll over to discover a flickering light in the dim room...
It's here! Daredevil Born Again just landed in our laps and we get stuck right in. David is obsessed by the line that is crossed, and Pat just really wants to watch the show already.
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The Show
(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
Disclaimer
I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
02:37 - Live Reaction04:43 - General Reaction and Thoughts10:05 - What's the line that gets crossed15:56 - How to craft a trailer18:00 - Fisk's deal and ambitions22:56 - Addiction and Daredevil28:02 - Fisk and Matt's dynamic32:12 - Larger MCU questions35:09 - The violence seems fresh38:01 - Who's the new woman39:50 - What would make an interesting show for Matt43:15 - What we don't want to see45:20 - What we want to see53:27 - When are we talking about Born Again55:25 - We're just happy to be here57:10 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent
Sunday Jan 26, 2025
Sunday Jan 26, 2025
Rain crashes over the brim of your baseball cap, the steam pouring from the grating obscures whatever lays in the dark alley...
David and Patrick are joined by Rye and @DarthdYT to discuss the first hour of Matt Reeves' The Batman (2022).
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The Show
(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
Disclaimer
I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps
00:00 - It begins!
08:41 - High level reactions11:29 - Summary15:28 - Comprehensive opening analysis31:08 - The Mayor's Death and the noir genre44:37 - Opening Monologue Discussion1:15:00 - The action scenes and how they work1:26:38 - Batman is a big dude in a rich house1:48:08 - The Bat cave and media criticism1:59:20 - Bruce and Alfred's Relationship2:06:01 - Technology and style2:23:17 - The Batman goes to see the Penguin2:35:00 -The platonic romance2:49:10 - Sympathy and Empathy3:00:45 - Alfred's role and willingness3:06:01 - Bruce's car is a real car-guy car3:10:13 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent
Sunday Feb 09, 2025
Sunday Feb 09, 2025
Rain crashes over the brim of your baseball cap, the steam pouring from the grating obscures whatever lays in the dark alley...
David and Patrick are joined @DarthdYT to break down the second hour of Matt Reeves' The Batman (2022).
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The Show
(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
Disclaimer
I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps
00:00 - It begins!
03:24 - David watched all of Twilight?!?04:30 - Summary10:15 - The Funeral Discussion39:46 - The Riddler's Car Bomb and Riddles57:50 - Batman escapes the GCPD1:08:25 - The Rat1:11:15 - The Bat Mobile is a hybrid (and it rocks)1:30:14 - The Computer Scene and Dath's Weird Gripe1:39:48 - Wayne Orphanage1:46:10 - Bible Study: The Sins of The Father1:57:30 - See You In Hell2:06:03 - Selina and Falcone2:15:29 - Falcone's "Your Father" Monologue2:29:45 - Anneka's Death2:33:36 - The Gotham Renewal Fund2:40:00 - Selina Confronts Falcone2:51:02 - The Riddler Is Caught3:01:00 - David Blows Smoke at Matt Reeves3:03:26 - Outro3:05:01 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent
Sunday Feb 23, 2025
Sunday Feb 23, 2025
You lean a palm on the wall, gaze out at the flooded city, and wonder how we might come back from such a calamity...
David and Patrick are joined @DarthdYT to break down the final hour of Matt Reeves' The Batman (2022).
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The Show
(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
Disclaimer
I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps
00:00 - It begins!
05:21 - The gang argues about Peter Quill06:15 - Summary11:40 - Let's talk about Productive Ambiguity35:09 - The Riddler as an accountant40:39 - The Riddler's Monologue1:00:55 - Time for real change1:20:15 - The problem of guns escalates1:30:50 - The question of masks and truth1:36:44 - Closing monologue discussion1:46:56 - The Bat and The Cat1:53:15 - What is the film about?2:00:01 - How to make things better2:07:11 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent
Sunday Mar 16, 2025
Sunday Mar 16, 2025
Smog seeps up from the manhole covers and chimney stacks, obscuring your view of a stranger approaching in the dark...
David and Patrick are joined by @DarthdYT to kick off their coverage of Daredevil Born Again. This episode the guys breakdown Episode 1, Heaven's Half Hour.
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(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
Disclaimer
I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps
00:00 - It begins!
02:33 - High level tThoughts05:13 - Daredevil Born Again "Heaven's Half Hour" Summary09:25 - Character establishment anaylsis21:15 - The Marvel franchise problem31:27 - Bullseye and the big fight scene45:39 - The "impact" of Dex's Death50:30 - Naturalistic candid storytelling52:00 - Intro credits discussion55:03 - One year later and character inversion1:03:03 - Darerdevil, Jameson, Trump and Post Modernism1:11:30 - Fisk and Vanessa are in a weird place1:17:50 - Murdock and McDuffie: Matt Murdock The Successful Lawyer1:20:01 - Dex's trial: Matt's testimonial, giving up Daredevil & Foggy's legacy1:34:00 - Matt and Karen's disaster of a conversation1:46:30 - Matt's cooking, addiction, distraction and grief1:53:00 - Fisk is running for Mayor & this gormless worm1:57:00 - Matt and Heather's meet cute2:03:15 - Murdock and McDuffie and Sherry2:09:45 - Fisk and Matt confront each other's darker halves2:19:30 - How to deal with the secret identity2:30:15 - The end of the episode2:33:00 - Brought you by subscribers at patreon.com/zeroindent